Bob2 5pts For their Outbacks, I want them to put on a decent roof rack that can carry 4-5 kayaks like the old ones did. It would also be nice if a car I take skiing could be outfitted with chains. WTF?? I'm in the market for a new car and the one I want fails me in both respects. Hell, a sedan could do as well. In fact, that's probably what we'll get and keep our old Outback for skiing and kayaking. Yeah, I almost never need chains, but occasionally California requires them and other times I like to venture far enough off of the plowed roads that it becomes my only hope of getting out.